HB 1588 live review of bill by Judiciary Committee now in progress. 10 am Tue.

[Greenhorn]

HB 1588 live review of bill by Judiciary Committee now in progress.  Began 10 am Tue. Feb. 19th.
http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwliveplayer&eventID=2013021189

[gaddy]

all ive gotten is "on break" since shortly after 10:00

[Greenhorn]

They went on break right after they convened it seemed like.  They are currently discussing a mental health bill.  I heard 1588 mentioned early on but I am not sure when they will get back to it.  It might be an all day thing, although I see it is on their agenda.

[Dhoey07]

Just adjourned for the day. Lame

[X-Force]

 

I just jumped on to listen during lunch... cant believe they are already done for the day.

[Greenhorn]

Those guys don't work very long.

[FisherKing]

on now!
check it out..
it was half way on the agenda.

[CP]

That was short and sweet.

What's next?

[CP]

Here's #2 as they called it:

http://app.leg.wa.gov/m/cmd/Handler.ashx?MethodName=getdocumentcontent&documentId=2AO5E7ehqUM&att=false


2013
PSHB 1588 (No. 2) Requiring universal background checks for firearms transfers By Rep. Pedersen Summary of PSHB 1588 (No. 2) Requirements for Firearms Sales Between Unlicensed Persons. An unlicensed person is prohibited from selling a firearm to another unlicensed person unless:  The purchaser produces a valid Washington concealed pistol license (CPL);  The purchaser produces a background check certificate issued by a local law enforcement agency; or  The transaction is completed through a dealer.
A violation of this provision is a gross misdemeanor offense. "Unlicensed person" means a person who is not licensed as a dealer under state law, or federally licensed as a collector. The seller may retain a copy of the purchaser's CPL or background check certificate as proof of compliance with the law. The act does not apply to the sale of antique firearms, or curios or relics
as defined in federal law. The act also does not apply to, nor alter any state law requirements that apply to, the sale of a firearm by a dealer. Background Check Certificates. A person may obtain a background check certificate from the chief of police or sheriff of the
jurisdiction where the applicant resides. An application for a background check certificate must include the applicant's full name, residential address, and date and place of birth, and may include his or her social security number. The law enforcement agency must verify the applicant's identity
by examining the applicant's drivers' license or other picture identification. The chief of police or sheriff must approve the application if: (1) based on a background check conducted through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), the applicant is eligible to possess a firearm under state and federal law; or (2) three business days have elapsed since initiating the background check and the NICS has not notified the chief of police or sheriff that the applicant is ineligible to possess a firearm. The chief of police or sheriff must provide the applicant with the NICS transaction number if the application is denied because the person is ineligible to possess a firearm. A background check certificate issued under this section is valid for 10 days from the date the
application is approved by the chief of police or sheriff. The chief of police or sheriff may charge a fee of up to twenty dollars for issuing background check certificates. The chief of police or sheriff shall retain a copy of each certificate issued, but records of certificates are confidential and not subject to public disclosure except to law enforcement agencies for criminal justice purposes.

[gaddy]

7 to 6 vote with a do pass recomendation

[Greenhorn]

Thanks for the update.

[xd2005]

Am I reading correctly that they have now modified to exempt CPLs as well as C&Rs? I guess they read my emails.   

[thatkidwho]

The bill specifies selling, not giving. So I assume that I may gift my son his rifles at 18 without a background check.

[xd2005]

The bill specifies selling, not giving. So I assume that I may gift my son his rifles at 18 without a background check.

At initial blush, that appears correct.

The current section is amended to read:

(1) No person may deliver a firearm to any person whom he or she has reasonable cause to believe is ineligible under state or federal law to possess a firearm. Any person violating this subsection is guilty of a class C felony, punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.

Then it gets into the new sections which all indicate "sell."

[gaddy]

not sure where it goes from here but was voted 7 to 6, do pass recomendation. go to the link & scroll to about 12 mins & listen. was very short. i only listened to a couple of reviews but bolth were 7 to 6 .